Hey all,
It’s this time of the year again and by that I mean another update to the Atheist Quote Plasmoid.
To those who don’t know about it, this is how it used to look like:
It had a few flaws:
All this is mostly fixed, this is how it looks like now:
As you can see, I added a slider that will zoom in and zoom out, in other words, it will modify the font size on the fly for you.
I also added a link to generate another random quotes OR a quote from one of our all time favorite authors when it comes to atheism:
All this was done using html, css and javascript (jquery and jqueryui), no need to know about C++ :). Make sure you have the plasma webkit script engine installed.
To install:
Download it from here and run:
plasmapkg -i atheist-quote.plasmoid
Or get it from GHNS if it works for you.
I hope you all had a merry solstice party and will have an awesome new year party too :D
jan said on 2009-12-26 21:59:52 UTC:
why dont adjust the font size to fit the given plasmoid size?
patcito said on 2009-12-29 22:18:37 UTC:
@jan I don't think it can be done with the plasma webkit script engine.
Great, said on 2009-12-30 07:57:43 UTC:
How about submitting it to RichardDawkins.net ?
Gianvacca said on 2009-12-30 08:39:20 UTC:
I would add a lot of Nietzsche quotes.
Width adjustment said on 2009-12-30 09:49:08 UTC:
i'd like to be able to make it wide and narrow, the resize option only seems to make a smaller/larger box shape at the moment.
coler said on 2009-12-30 10:31:47 UTC:
It's sad to see some people are such close minded. However, sometimes it's very funny :)
not so well said on 2009-12-30 10:51:39 UTC:
So incredibly exciting news, so it must be posted at Planet KDE?
Johannes said on 2009-12-30 11:38:06 UTC:
I would like to have a plasmoid for agnostics :) So far we have plasmoids for people believing in atheism, and for people believing in christianity.
What about those of us believing in nothing? oO
Anyway, nice plasmoid - have fun!
Coler said on 2009-12-30 20:00:29 UTC:
"I would like to have a plasmoid for agnostics :) So far we have plasmoids for people believing in atheism, and for people believing in christianity.
What about those of us believing in nothing? oO"
I like you comment very much :) People who believe in atheism, actually believe in some people (scientists or usually "scientists", "philosophers") philosophies etc. Agnostics, probably also believe in something and just believe they believe in nothing (this unknown something let them consider it's actually nothing or in other words it's their "not believing" in something is caused by believing in something else they're not aware of). :)
patcito said on 2009-12-30 20:02:20 UTC:
@Johannes First of all, nobody believe in atheism as it is just a lack of belief (http://rmbrowning.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/atheism.jpg ). You don't seem to know what atheism and agnosticism are. Both are not mutually exclusive and actually most atheists are agnostics too to some degree (and some theists are agnostics too).
Agnosticism is not about belief but knowledge. Theism and Atheism are about belief and lack thereof. You can say "I believe there is a god but I don't think it can be known" (agnostic theism) or "I don't believe there is a god but I don't think it can be known" (agnostic atheism which is what most atheists are).
Do you really believe there is a god? If your answer is not "yes" then you're an atheist, if you say it can't be known then you're an agnostic atheist, if you say it can be known then you're a strong atheist. Simple :)
More info here: http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm
patcito said on 2009-12-30 20:07:20 UTC:
@Coler how can you believe in nothing? Do you believe you believe in nothing? If you answer "yes", then you're contradicting yourself, if you say "no" then you're contradicting yourself too and if you say "I don't know" then you're not making any claim xD
Oh, and atheists believe in many things indeed, as long as there are sufficient proof and evidence. Like right now, I believe it is very possible my laptop exists as I'm using it to write this stuff =)
Ian said on 2009-12-30 22:38:14 UTC:
Athiest - totally convinced there is no god
Agnostic - 99.9% convinced there is no god but cannot say 100% as you cannot prove that something does not exist.
As someone has already said "athiesm is not a belief" - its rational thought
patcito said on 2009-12-30 22:49:35 UTC:
@Ian atheism is just a lack of belief in God for lack of evidence and proof. It's not about being convinced of anything.
Agnosticism is just about claiming that the existence of god can not be known but it doesn't exclude from believing or not believing in the existence of god.
rich232 said on 2009-12-30 23:34:34 UTC:
doesn't seem to work with kde 4.2.2 ;-(
Johannes said on 2009-12-31 13:24:19 UTC:
I guess i like the view of patcito, but i have a different notion of "atheism". Lemme try to explain :) I'm sorry for having used this "believe" word. I should have rather said "convinced". I'm an atheist for science, but i'm not an atheist for reality:
There are actually two kind atheism: If you program a game, the characters in it will never be able to figure out about you - so they will assume you don't exist while trying to figure out how they came to be (doing science) - but they might not be convinced about that there is no god: That's allowed when they are outside of science, at home. One is methodic atheism, and the other is my notion of "agnosticism".
Non-methodic atheism will be convinced about that there is no god even outside of science, at home. But this is not a rational step, because the motivation is not near any rationality - this is just something about being convinced or not.
So, this plasmoid seems to spread the second kind of atheism - the one that believes no god is there even when not doing science. I was wishing there is some agnostic plasmoid, but i was kinda kidding, since i believe it wouldn't be much different from this plasmoid - maybe except those sentences that talk about being convinced there is no god :)
fr said on 2009-12-31 14:13:36 UTC:
Why an atheism-specific plasmoid (and possibly offend people if it is shipped with KDE) and not just a "fortune" plasmoid which can be used with any quotes? Atheism quotes could be distributed via "hot new stuff" then.
patcito said on 2009-12-31 17:24:10 UTC:
@Johannes atheism is just the lack of belief in god (for lack of evidence), nothing more, nothing less. Atheists neither believe nor are convinced in the non existence of god, it's just the default position to not believe in something when there are no evidence. Also define "no god outside of science".
And you're mistaken about the meaning of agnosticism (and atheism too for that matter). Again, read this http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm
Allen said on 2009-12-31 18:21:25 UTC:
So KDE is the desktop for atheists? I'll have to swallow mono and stick with gnome.
rich232 said on 2009-12-31 19:04:29 UTC:
@Allen, Yes... don't use it or you'll burn in hell.
Coler said on 2010-01-01 10:48:05 UTC:
@Patcito
"how can you believe in nothing? Do you believe you believe in nothing? If you answer "yes", then you're contradicting yourself, if you say "no" then you're contradicting yourself too and if you say "I don't know" then you're not making any claim xD"
It's possible to believe in nothing. It depends what nothing means for you. Consider nothing means there's no God, so you believe in nothing :) Not believing in any religion can also mean you believe in nothing. I'm an optimist, so I assume there must be positive word used - believe in nothing rather then not believe ;) Also, you cannot proof God doesn't exist, so you must believe in atheism or believe in some philosophies etc.
@Allen
Sarcasm? If not, you're a troll :) How it's possible to you one single plasmoid will describe entire DE? KDE is for everyone, there's also Christian plasmoid and if you want to make one for some other religion feel free to do it. I consider Mono and Gnome are for idiots (because of lack of many features, old and crappy gtk and there's much more powerful and feature reach DE, so only idiots must use Gnome ;)), so ask yourself if you want to stick with this. ;>
patcito said on 2010-01-01 21:09:43 UTC:
@Coler: well believing in nothing is not synonymous with not believing in god, believing in nothing is nihilism which kind of contracts itself as I said before. As I said I believe in many things as long as there are evidence and proof, I'm not picky :)
"Also, you cannot proof God doesn't exist, so you must believe in atheism"
Hey, I just farted the universe out of my own ass 5 minutes ago and all the memories you have before those 5 minutes were made up by the spirit of my fart's holy smell. Can you proof I didn't created the universe 5 minute ago with a fart? No, so that means you believe in afartism.
What I'm trying to say is that atheism is just the default scientific position on theism as there are no proof nor evidence for theism just like there is no proof for my fart theory. So should we call you an afartist? No, that's because it's the default position to not believe in it. The word atheism shouldn't even exist (just like afartism) but we had to made it up because of so many people believing in theism. If billions of people start believing in the fart theory, many infidels will start claiming their afartism.
Johannes said on 2010-01-01 21:34:41 UTC:
@patcito, thanks - nice site. Learned something new today. So i will start calling myself an "agnostic atheist" :)
The good side of it is that now i've already got a plasmoid reflecting my worldview - no need for another one xD
Pouddyjox said on 2010-02-14 07:59:33 UTC:
Hello, as you may already found I am newbie here.
In first steps it's very good if someone supports you, so hope to meet friendly and helpful people here. Let me know if I can help you.
Thanks in advance and good luck! :)
MasmabSah said on 2010-02-27 20:15:56 UTC:
Hi,
I am new here..First post to just say hi to all community.
Thanks